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Jesse - September 4, 2006 08:07 AM (GMT)
This is interesting, from TheOneRing.net...

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The BIG news has finally hit. A Ringer Spy who was recently in the New York offices of New Line Cinema has reported that they clearly saw 'The Hobbit' on the film schedule for 2007. Here's what the spy had to say:

"Please leave my email anonymous as I have some very exciting news to report. I was in New Line's NY offices to discuss upcoming projects when I clearly saw something very intriguing on a year planner. 'The Hobbit' was clearly marked on what looked like July 2007. I couldn't exactly take a moment to investigate the calendar with my audience in the room, but it definitely said 'The Hobbit'. Lets hope this is a PJ project!"


I'm thinking of a cameo role as King Thranduil for a certain someone! :naughty:

Jesse - September 20, 2006 08:27 AM (GMT)
Ain't It Cool News has a great interview with Peter Jackson.

Amongst the little gems is this...

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If I was doing THE HOBBIT I'd try to get as many of the guys back as I could. I mean, there's actually a role for Legolas in THE HOBBIT, his father features in it, obviously Gandalf and Saruman should be part of it. There's things that you can do with THE HOBBIT to bring in some old friends, for sure. I have thought about it from time to time... Elrond, Galadriel and Arwen could all feature. Elves have lived for centuries. Part of the attraction would be working with old friends. I wouldn't want to do it unless we could keep a continuity of cast. I have zero interest in directing a Gandalf who wasn't Ian McKellen for instance. Strange to be even talking about it, for three years it's been in this rights situation limbo...


If anyone is going to make this movie, it has to be Peter. Keeping my fingers crossed that somebody picks up that phone and calls him pretty soon.

Squirrel - September 20, 2006 12:00 PM (GMT)
The Hobbit with all those familiar faces would be FAB. I'll be keeping everything crossed!

ETA I did mean familiar faces in other roles!! I know my Tolkien pretty well :D

Jesse - September 20, 2006 08:52 PM (GMT)
Although Legolas isn't in 'The Hobbit' he would be easy to write in, unless Pete would rather cast him as 'King Thranduil' seeing as he's older...well that's if it ever happens.

And the other good thing is...Haldir would be back, because he's not dead in The Hobbit. :D

madonnalvr47 - September 21, 2006 01:42 AM (GMT)
I'd love it, because beside Orlando I love Cate Blanchett, I've seen all her movies :)

Lissa - September 23, 2006 05:45 PM (GMT)
From the Sept. 29, 2006 issue of "Entertainment Weekly" magazine:


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Jesse - September 23, 2006 06:16 PM (GMT)
Thanks for the scans Lissa.

I'd love for this to happen and I wonder what new material he would invent.

Without doubt he'd write a role for Legolas and of course Aragorn. Legolas knew Aragorn in the Fellowship...

Aragorn: You cannot wield it! None of us can. The One Ring answers to Sauron alone. It has no other master.

Boromir: And what would a ranger know of this matter?

Legolas: This is no mere ranger. He is Aragorn, son of Arathorn. You owe him your allegiance.

Boromir: Aragorn? This... is Isildur's heir?

Legolas: And heir to the throne of Gondor.

Aragorn: Havo dad Legolas (Sit down Legolas)


..so something could be included to explain why they knew each other.

Any more thoughts anyone?

melodyslove - September 23, 2006 10:11 PM (GMT)
Oh,God,that would be GREAT if PJ can make it happen!! :yahoo:

To see the Elf again in ANY form would be MOST welcome!! :wub:

Jesse - October 25, 2006 03:12 PM (GMT)
This is interesting...very interesting! :brow:

From ComingSoon.net

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MGM chief operating officer Rick Sands talked about the studio's upcoming projects during a ceremony for Sylvester Stallone at the Orlando World Marriott Center on Tuesday. Stallone picked up the ShowEast Icon Award for playing Rocky Balboa.

The Hollywood Reporter says Sands is packaging the fourth "Terminator" film -- it will be titled "Terminator blah blah, not Four," Sands joked -- with a new star likely to fill the Arnold Schwarzenegger role. "It's like the 'Batman' or 'Superman' franchise in that it lends itself to having different actors in the roles," he said.

Sands is in talks with New Line Cinema to get the rights to produce two prequel films to "The Lord of the Rings" series, based on J.R.R. Tolkien's "The Hobbit," he said.

Other projects he mentioned include a sequel to The Thomas Crown Affair, set to star Pierce Brosnan, and a remake of Dirty Rotten Scoundrels.


That dream of Orlando playing King Thranduil is getting a little closer. :naughty:

melodyslove - November 21, 2006 02:13 AM (GMT)
**UGGHH**

NOT good news. :wtf:

:angry:

From here:

http://www.theonering.net/staticnews/1163993546.html

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Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh Talk THE HOBBIT
Xoanon @ 10:32 pm EST


Moments ago we received this email from Peter Jackson and his crew down in New Zealand, take a look...

Dear One Ringers,

As you know, there's been a lot of speculation about The Hobbit. We are often asked about when or if this film will ever be made. We have always responded that we would be very interested in making the film - if it were offered to us to make.

You may also be aware that Wingnut Films has bought a lawsuit against New Line, which resulted from an audit we undertook on part of the income of The Fellowship of the Ring. Our attitude with the lawsuit has always been that since it's largely based on differences of opinion about certain accounting practices, we would like an independent body - whether it be a judge, a jury, or a mediator, to look at the issues and make an unbiased ruling. We are happy to accept whatever that ruling is. In our minds, it's not much more complex than that and that's exactly why film contracts include right-to-audit clauses.

However, we have always said that we do not want to discuss The Hobbit with New Line until the lawsuit over New Line's accounting practices is resolved. This is simple common sense - you cannot be in a relationship with a film studio, making a complex, expensive movie and dealing with all the pressures and responsibilities that come with the job, while an unresolved lawsuit exists.

We have also said that we do not want to tie settlement of the lawsuit to making a film of The Hobbit. In other words, we would have to agree to make The Hobbit as a condition of New Line settling our lawsuit. In our minds this is not the right reason to make a film and if a film of The Hobbit went ahead on this basis, it would be doomed. Deciding to make a movie should come from the heart - it's not a matter of business convenience. When you agree to make a film, you're taking on a massive commitment and you need to be driven by an absolute passion to want to get the story on screen. It's that passion, and passion alone, that gives the movie its imagination and heart. To us it is not a cold-blooded business decision.

A couple of months ago there was a flurry of Hobbit news in the media. MGM, who own a portion of the film rights in The Hobbit, publicly stated they wanted to make the film with us. It was a little weird at the time because nobody from New Line had ever spoken to us about making a film of The Hobbit and the media had some fun with that. Within a week or two of those stories, our Manager Ken Kamins got a call from the co-president of New Line Cinema, Michael Lynne, who in essence told Ken that the way to settle the lawsuit was to get a commitment from us to make the Hobbit, because "that's how these things are done". Michael Lynne said we would stand to make much more money if we tied the lawsuit and the movie deal together and this may well be true, but it's still the worst reason in the world to agree to make a film.

Several years ago, Mark Ordesky told us that New Line have rights to make not just The Hobbit but a second "LOTR prequel", covering the events leading up to those depicted in LOTR. Since then, we've always assumed that we would be asked to make The Hobbit and possibly this second film, back to back, as we did the original movies. We assumed that our lawsuit with the studio would come to a natural conclusion and we would then be free to discuss our ideas with the studio, get excited and jump on board. We've assumed that we would possibly get started on development and design next year, whilst filming The Lovely Bones. We even had a meeting planned with MGM executives to talk through our schedule.

However last week, Mark Ordesky called Ken and told him that New Line would no longer be requiring our services on the Hobbit and the LOTR 'prequel'. This was a courtesy call to let us know that the studio was now actively looking to hire another filmmaker for both projects.

Ordesky said that New Line has a limited time option on the film rights they have obtained from Saul Zaentz (this has never been conveyed to us before), and because we won't discuss making the movies until the lawsuit is resolved, the studio is going to have to hire another director.

Given that New Line are committed to this course of action, we felt at the very least, we owed you, the fans, a straightforward account of events as they have unfolded for us.

We have always had the greatest support from The Ringers and we are very sorry our involvement with The Hobbit has been ended in this way. Our journey into Tolkien's world started with a phone call from Ken Kamins to Harvey Weinstein in Nov 1995 and ended with a phone call from Mark Ordesky to Ken in Nov 2006. It has been a great 11 years.

This outcome is not what we anticipated or wanted, but neither do we see any positive value in bitterness and rancor. We now have no choice but to let the idea of a film of The Hobbit go and move forward with other projects.

We send our very best wishes to whomever has the privilege of making The Hobbit and look forward to seeing the film on the big screen.

Warmest regards to you all, and thanks for your incredible support over the years.

We got to go there - but not back again ...

Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh

Xoanon here, this is a big blow to the LOTR community. I feel like there has been a death in the family...there are a LOT of questions that will remain unanswered for the time being. Why couldn't New Line come to an agreement with PJ? Is there really a time option on the film rights for New Line? Who will they get to direct? Those are some massive shoes to fill if you ask me. I hope that whoever they get to direct will not try something 'new' with the look and feel of PJ's Middle-earth...and what is this LOTR 'prequel' project?

There have been rumors about The Hobbit being split into two films, will this prequel project then become the third film in another trilogy? Who knows...

I'm sure Peter and Fran aren't going to want to talk more about this, but that doesn't mean we won't be begging for a sitdown and chat! Stay tuned for more...


Update: Demosthenes here. Like yourselves, many of us here have been getting more and more excited by the news that the Hobbit, whether via one or two movies, seems to be gradually drawing closer to production. The news that Jackson and MGM studios were in close talks and that production could begin as soon as 2008 or 2009 was particularly promising.

The news of New Line's apparent veto is quite cutting. What does it mean for the viability of the production? Will anyone back two films if Jackson is not directing? Who are the alternatives anyway? Will WETA still do the FX, and will the production be based in New Zealand? And will actors such as Ian McKellen still want to come on board? A few of us are discussing these things in TheOneRing.net's IRC channel. If you to care to join us, simply drop in and join us through our java chat using your browser. Alternatively, point your favourite IRC client to our server:irc.theonering.net and join #theonering.net. Come along and vent and discuss. All we request is that you do so politely!

melodyslove - November 21, 2006 08:55 AM (GMT)
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Who's the boss of "The Hobbit"?
This question has been growing more heated in recent weeks as the principal parties involved in the film -- New Line, MGM and director Peter Jackson -- have been duking it out, each staking their claim as a key player in "The Hobbit" along with a prequel to "The Lord of the Rings."

Behind the jostling is the fact that while New Line owns the rights to produce the pic, MGM owns the distribution rights and Jackson is the creative force behind the franchise's staggering success.

In the most recent flurry of events, Peter Jackson and producing partner Fran Walsh posted a letter Sunday night on the "LOTR" fan site Theonering.net saying that New Line told them last week that it was going to make "The Hobbit" without their services.

The letter also reiterated in detail Jackson's stance on "The Hobbit" -- that he is not willing to have a serious conversation about directing the film until his ongoing lawsuit with New Line over what he considers improper accounting practices over "LOTR" profits is settled.

New Line's given reason for proceeding sans Jackson is that the studio's rights to the pic are about to expire, and seeing as the lawsuit with Jackson isn't moving ahead, well, the message was that New Line is.

All of this has riled MGM, which in recent weeks has been openly touting the fact that the newly revamped studio is serious about making "The Hobbit" -- with Jackson.

An MGM spokesman said that "the matter of Peter Jackson directing 'The Hobbit' films is far from closed."

Though New Line no-commented inquiries about Jackson's statement, the mini-major's move is a loud statement to both MGM and Jackson that the studio is in the driver's seat when it comes to "The Hobbit."

Jackson noted in his letter that New Line exec Mark Ordesky, who shepherded the "Rings" trilogy, explained that New Line is ditching Jackson because it has a "limited time option" on the film rights obtained from Saul Zaentz.

There are already online revolts from fans who can't fathom a "Hobbit" directed by anyone else, and Jackson makes clear in his letter that he's not budging on the issue of the lawsuit or "The Hobbit."

Jesse - November 21, 2006 10:20 AM (GMT)
Boy! Things are heating up here aren't they!!! :brow:

In all honesty, if New Line decides to make The Hobbit without Jackson I really don't think key players like Sir Ian McKellan will want to participate. There is only one person who can make that film...and that's Peter and somehow, I don't think our dream of seeing this film made will ever become a reality...or at least not the way we would like!!

melodyslove - November 25, 2006 01:29 AM (GMT)
LOTS of info and reactions to the news that PJ may/may not be involved....

All from theonering.net.

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Undoubtedly fueled by dozens of emails on the subject Sir Ian McKellen decided to update the e-post section on his website today. The main topic? Why the situation between Peter Jackson and New Line of course! McKellen states "It's hard to imagine any other director matching his achievement in Tolkien country." However, he is not too glum about the future: "We will have to await developments but being an optimist I am hoping that New Line, MGM and Wingnut can settle outstanding problems so that the long expected "Hobbit" is filmed sooner rather than later."


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Full quote:
The LOTR fans are already expressing a sense of betrayal.  On my own account, I am very sad as I should have relished re-visiting Middle Earth with Peter again as team-leader.  It's hard to imagine any other director matching  his achievement in Tolkien country.  We will have to await developments but being an optimist I am hoping that New Line, MGM and Wingnut can settle outstanding problems so that the long expected "Hobbit" is filmed sooner rather than later.


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In the Chicago Sun-Times today, Elijah Wood had this to say about a Jackson-less 'Hobbit:' "...I was very disappointed in the news. Peter Jackson is the man who worked over 10 years developing this world. Now, they might move forward on a new project with another director and it won't look or feel the same."


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Word from a reliable source indicates that Sam Raimi has been approached to direct THE HOBBIT. Since Peter Jackson's (Middle-)earth shattering news that he is off the project, it seems the Spider-Man director may step into his place. Raimi was born on October 23rd, 1959 in Royal Oak, Michigan. His first big hit was 'The Evil Dead' but he really gained cult status with 'Evil Dead II'. It is his amazing work on the Spider-Man series that has propelled Raimi to the mainstream. His latest film 'Spider-Man 3' is due out this May.
While there is no word on Raimi accepting the invitation, it remains to be seen who, if anyone, will be replacing Peter Jackson!


Links to things you can do to help if you want to see PJ ultimately direct this movie:

http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/1/1164387271

http://www.thehobbitfilm.com/

ETA: Adding this:
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Saul Zaentz, the owner of Tolkien Enterprises, and ultimate holder of the film rights to The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings was very recently interviewed about the Hobbit and Peter Jackson's involvement.

The interview has since been posted on German Rings site Elbenwald. You can read the original article here. It's in German, so below is a translation of his comments. The translation comes from Jurgen at TheHobbit-Movie.com.

Q: What is with the long anticipated Hobbit-adaption?

A: It will definitely be shot by Peter Jackson. The question is only when. He wants to shoot another movie first. Next year the Hobbit-rights will fall back to my company. I suppose that Peter will wait because he knows that he will make the best deal with us. And he is fed up with the studios: to get his profit share on the rings trilogy he had to sue New Line. With us in contrast he knows that he will be paid fairly and artistically supported without reservation.


melodyslove - December 3, 2006 06:18 AM (GMT)
Now this,from here:

http://news.aol.com/entertainment/movies/a...9990001?cid=918

....so,who really knows at this point?? :wacko:

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Jackson May Return for 'The Hobbit'
It may take another quest to the Crack of Doom, but there's new hope that Peter Jackson  will return to direct "The Hobbit" and another "Lord of the Rings" prequel.

"Lord of the Rings" fans were in a frenzy last week, following the announcement from Jackson that New Line Cinema had sent a letter informing him that the film studio "would no longer be requiring our services on the 'Hobbit' and the 'LOTR' prequel."

Now, the producer who owns the screen rights to "Rings" writer J.R.R. Tolkien is telling German Web site Elbenwald.de that Jackson will be back, once New Line's contract expires.

"It will definitely be shot by Peter Jackson ," said Saul Zaentz, whose company owns Tolkien Enterprises.

"Next year, 'The Hobbit' rights will fall back to my company. I suppose that Peter will wait because he knows that he will make the best deal with us. And he is fed up with the studios. To get his profit share on the 'Rings' trilogy, he had to sue New Line."

The wildly successful trilogy has grossed more than $3 billion worldwide. Jackson and the studio are at odds over accounting practices. In a lawsuit, the director has asked a third party to intervene.

"With us," Zaentz told the Web site, "he knows that he will be paid fairly and artistically supported without reservation."

A spokesman for Zaentz's company could not confirm Zaentz's comments, telling ABCNEWS.com that the producer was traveling. Jackson's media representative did not return a call on this matter.

Zaentz has produced such films as "Amadeus" and "The English Patient."

Science fiction Web site DarkHorizons.com was abuzz with the story. New Line had announced the project earlier in November, with an eye on releasing it in 2009.

Following news of the Jackson-New Line feud last week, actor Sir Ian McKellen announced his disappointment.

"On my own account, I am very sad as I should have relished revisiting Middle Earth with Peter again as team leader. It's hard to imagine any other director matching his achievement in Tolkien country," he said in a posting on his official site, which was excerpted on Dark Horizons.

McKellen is widely expected to reprise his role as Gandalf.

melodyslove - December 7, 2006 09:31 PM (GMT)
An interesting read from the Entertainment Weekly site,from here:

http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,1567078_1_0_,00.html

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Seventeen Oscar wins. $3 billion in worldwide box office. Near-universal praise from critics. Yes, we're talking about the Lord of the Rings trilogy and the man who directed, produced, and co-wrote all three movies: Peter Jackson. You'd think that Hollywood would be begging Jackson to make The Hobbit. But you'd be wrong. In a letter to fans posted on TheOneRing.net on Nov. 19, Jackson announced that New Line was pursuing other filmmakers for the LOTR prequel — and since then, the situation has only gotten more complicated. Here's our primer on how the most anticipated movie since The Phantom Menace ran into obstacles worse than evil Lord Saruman.

WHAT'S THE PROBLEM?
Money. Jackson's Wingnut Films filed a lawsuit against New Line in 2005, asking the studio to fully disclose all revenue from The Fellowship of the Ring, including international box office, DVD and TV sales, and merchandise like videogames and action figures. (It's possible that amount could be in the tens of millions.) And while he is not suing for a specific sum, the studio could owe him millions. Or zilch. ''We would like an independent body — whether it be a judge, a jury, or a mediator, to look at the issues,'' Jackson explained in his letter. ''We are happy to accept whatever that ruling is.'' A source close to the Jackson camp alleges that New Line has continuously stymied the audit. New Line execs declined to discuss the matter, only saying ''We are in litigation with Wingnut Films, and have been unsuccessful despite a formal mediation, as well as discussions with Wingnut directly, to settle the matter.'' According to Jackson, the studio would be willing to settle, provided the director committed to making The Hobbit, which has been envisioned as two movies. But for Jackson, those terms are ''the worst reason in the world to agree to make a film.'' Meanwhile, Saul Zaentz, the producer who bought the Hobbit and LOTR rights in 1976, is no doubt following the legal fracas with a sense of déjà vu. He too sued the studio back in 2004 over royalties, and settled in 2005. And in 2003, Viggo Mortensen spearheaded an attempt to get New Line to offer greater compensation to some of the cast. The studio eventually coughed up bonuses of an undisclosed sum.

WHY IS THIS HAPPENING NOW?
It all boils down to who owns the rights to The Hobbit. While it sounds ridiculous today, for years the LOTR books (and their prequel) were mired in development hell. Zaentz had originally bought the rights to turn the Tolkien works into movies from United Artists, now a subsidiary of MGM, back in 1976. (MGM still owns the distribution rights to The Hobbit.) In 1997, Zaentz sold those rights to Miramax, which passed the property on to current owner New Line a year later. (Phew!) But the studio now seems to be facing a ticking clock, because insiders speculate the window for New Line to make a Hobbit movie might close sometime after 2008. Which may explain why the studio is suddenly so gung ho to reunite with Gollum, Gandalf, and Co.

WHY DID NEW LINE DITCH JACKSON?
As Jackson told his fans, he is not interested in discussing The Hobbit until the lawsuit is resolved. And with a possible deadline looming, New Line is understandably not interested in losing hundreds of millions of dollars in potential box office and ancillary revenues. So, according to sources, the studio recently began courting other filmmakers,including Spider-Man director Sam Raimi. (Raimi did not return calls for comment.)

IS THERE STILL A CHANCE JACKSON WILL DIRECT THE HOBBIT?
Finally, some good news. Yes, Jackson did say he is now focusing on The Lovely Bones, which is due to begin shooting next year. But everyone from TheOneRing-ers to trilogy star Ian McKellen is publicly lobbying for him to make the movie. ''I should have relished revisiting Middle-earth with Peter again as team leader,'' McKellen wrote on his website. ''I am hoping that New Line, MGM, and Wingnut can settle outstanding problems.'' Then there's MGM, which may be the most optimistic party of all. ''We support Peter Jackson as a filmmaker, and when the dust settles, we believe he'll be making the movie,'' said a rep for the studio. ''We can't imagine any other result.'' It's safe to say that they speak for millions — a fact Jackson is no doubt hoping will be very hard for New Line to ignore.

melodyslove - January 12, 2007 03:29 AM (GMT)
Oh,this is just getting SILLY.It's NOT like New Line didn't make any money off the LOTR films. :angry:

From here:

http://www.syfyportal.com/news423129.html

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Think there might be a resolution between New Line Cinema and Peter Jackson soon enough to start work on a "Hobbit" film? Guess again.

Robert Shaye, New Line's head honcho, said as far as he's concerned, the director that made his studio a lot of money with the Lord of the Rings films will never set foot on his lot again, not while he's in charge.

The reason? Shaye is quite unhappy that Jackson had the audacity to sue the studio for what he believes are profits that were held from him in the distribution of the first LOTR film, "The Fellowship of the Ring."

"I do not want to make a movie with somebody who is suing me," Shaye told SciFi Wire. "It will never happen during my watch."

It's the first time someone from New Line has officially commented on
Jackson's involvement with "The Hobbit," which Jackson has previously said he won't do while the lawsuit against New Line continues, and the feeling obviously is mutual. Shaye didn't necessarily intend to talk about the Jackson situation, as he was reportedly chatting with SciFi Wire about Shaye's new film, "The Last Mimzy," which marks the first time he's directed a movie since 1990.

"There's a kind of arrogance," Shaye said. "Not that I don't think Peter is a good filmmaker and tha he hasn't contributed significantly to filmography and made three very good movies. And I don't even expect him to say 'thank you' for having me make it happen and having New Line make it happen. But to think that I, as a functionary in [a] company that has been around for a long time, but is now owned by a very big conglomerate, would care one bit about trying to cheat the guy ... he's either had very poor counsel or is completely misinformed and myopic to think that I care whether I give him anything."

Shaye added that Jackson has pocketed some $250 million already from the trilogy, and that the lawsuit came about with Jackson ever even trying to discuss his concerns with the studio first. And now, with Jackson unhappy and the flap between the two parties getting a lot of extra attention, many of the actors from the trilogy are apparently uninterested in helping New Line celebrate its upcoming 40th anniversary.(????)

"I'm incredibly offended," Shaye said. "I don't care about Peter Jackson
anymore. He wants to have another $100 million or $50 million, whatever he's suing us for. He doesn't want to sit down and talk about it. He thinks that we owe him something after we've paid him over a quarter of a billion dollars. Cheers, Peter."


Man,this makes him look greedy and pathetic,in my opinion. :(

And PJ's reply,from here:

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Peter-Jacks...-Line-4260.html

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"Our issue with New Line Cinema has only ever been about their refusal to account for financial anomalies that surfaced from a partial audit of The Fellowship of the Ring. Contrary to recent comments made by Bob Shaye, we attempted to discuss the issues raised by the Fellowship audit with New Line for over a year but the studio was and continues to be completely uncooperative. This has compelled us to file a lawsuit to pursue our contractual rights under the law. Nobody likes taking legal action, but the studio left us with no alternative.

For over two years, New Line has denied us the ability to audit The Two Towers and The Return of the King, despite repeated requests. Film auditing is a common and straightforward practice within the industry and we don't understand why New Line Cinema has taken this position.

In light of these circumstances, I didn't think it was appropriate for me to be involved in New Line Cinema's 40th Anniversary video. I have never discussed this video with any of the cast of The Lord of the Rings. The issues that Bob Shaye has with the cast pre-date this law suit by many years.

Fundamentally, our legal action is about holding New Line to its contractual obligations and promises. It is regrettable that Bob has chosen to make it personal. I have always had the highest respect and affection for Bob and other senior management at New Line and continue to do so."


melodyslove - January 28, 2007 08:40 AM (GMT)
Well,if anybody's going to take over this, Sam Raimi is a good choice,in my opinion. :)

From here:

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/...adlines-entnews

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Good-bye Spidey! Hello Bilbo?

In a move that would have ramifications for several major multi-nationals, and millions of fans, "Spider-Man" maestro Sam Raimi has been telling associates, as well as his corporate masters at Sony, that he is thinking of directing "The Hobbit," the prequel to J.R.R. Tolkien's masterwork, "The Lord of the Rings." At least two top-level insiders – who declined to be named -- have heard the words out of the director's mouth.

A year ago, such a swap of franchises would have been unthinkable, given that Peter Jackson co-wrote and directed the Oscar-winning "Rings" trilogy, but that was before the slugfest erupted between the once-rotund director and New Line honcho Bob Shaye.

Jackson is suing the studio over money he says is owed to him from the the "Rings" films, which grossed more than $3 billion at the box office and another $1 billion on DVD. In the last few weeks, Shaye has declared Jackson persona-non-grata at New Line, stating publicly that, "He will never make any movie with New Line Cinema again while I'm still working at the company."

According to a New Line source, the studio isn't just contemplating one "Hobbit" movie, but two. The prequel tells the story of hobbit Bilbo Baggins and how he first discovers the magical but sinister ring, the very object that drives the action in "Lord of the Rings."

Still, while Raimi might be an irresistable replacement for Jackson, his ascension to the directing chair is far from a sure thing. New Line says it doesn't have a deal with the director, and Raimi hasn't met with Shaye or production president Toby Emmerich. More potentially problematic is the fact that MGM owns the distribution rights to the film. An MGM spokeman insists that MGM remains firmly in the Jackson camp: "We support Peter Jackson, and when the dust settles, we believe he is the one who will be making this movie."

A call to Raimi's office was directed to his agent, Richard Lovett, at CAA. The agency did not comment.

For Sony, losing Raimi – who gave "Spider-Man" its distinctive visual theatrics – would be a blow. Studio chief Amy Pascal has said she wants to make six installments of the "Spider-Man" tale. Just this week, the studio announced it was rehiring David Koepp, who wrote the first film, to write "Spider-Man 4."






Jesse - February 6, 2007 09:14 AM (GMT)
I fond this over at TheOneRing.net - Greg Wright talks 'The Hobbit'

http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/8/1170723597 - it makes interesting reading. :legolas:

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The added bonus? Added roles for Viggo Mortensen as Aragorn, Liv Tyler as Arwen, Hugo Weaving as Elrond, Cate Blanchett as Galadriel, and Orlando Bloom as Legolas—maybe even John Rhys-Davies as Gimli. All of these characters were alive during the period of The Hobbit, and were certainly active during the period between the two tales. Heck, we might even get a major role for Craig Parker again as Haldir, which would make his subsequent death in The Two Towers all that more poignant.


This is exactly what I have thought for a long time. Except that I'm not so sure Orlando could play Legolas. His facial features have matured considerably since FOTR and we are talking about a time before that. So in keeping with continuity I think he would be better protraying Thranduil (with a dark wig) and maybe have Legolas digitally added to a few scenes. It could be done.

Remember how we could pick out the 'call-back' reshoots in TTT and ROTK. The difference even then was remarkable even with make-up.

But putting that aside, Thranduil or Legolas, whichever. I don't mind. As long as he is there. :)


Jesse - February 19, 2007 08:42 AM (GMT)
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The Hobbit in 2009?
Source: The New York Times
February 18, 2007


Despite his falling out with "The Lord of the Rings" trilogy director Peter Jackson, who sued New Line regarding "The Fellowship of the Ring," New Line founder and co-chairman Robert K. Shaye is pressing ahead and eyeing a 2009 release for The Hobbit.

The New York Times interviewed Shaye last week and said:

And he would not comment on reports in the news media that the "Spider-Man" director Sam Raimi had been asked to direct "The Hobbit." He said, however, that although there was no workable script yet for the film, he intended to release it in 2009.

Will Sam Raimi, or another director come on board? Stay tuned for more news as it comes in regarding the high profile project.


So it looks like we are going to get The Hobbit eventually, in some form or another. It will be interesting to see how this develops with regards to director, actors and most importantly WETA Workshops.

mayfrayn - December 18, 2007 07:13 PM (GMT)
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'Hobbit' Coming Soon: 'Rings' Director Peter Jackson, New Line Reach Two-Movie Deal.
"The Hobbit" follows the adventures of Bilbo Baggins, who embarks on an adventure with Gandalf the Grey that results in the discovery of the One Ring, the chief subject of the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy. Of course, that could mean the return of some familiar faces for the new movies. Cate Blanchett, Viggo Mortensen, Orlando Bloom and Sean Astin have all expressed an interest in working with Jackson again, regardless of whether their characters technically appear in the original Tolkien novel. But with the second film rumored to bridge the gap between the books, it wouldn't be wise to count anyone out at this point.

OrlandoLad - December 18, 2007 10:35 PM (GMT)
Here's more HOBBIT news from The Digital Bits

ACADEMY AWARD WINNER PETER JACKSON AND NEW LINE CINEMA JOIN WITH MGM TO PRODUCE “THE HOBBIT,” EAGERLY-ANTICIPATED FANTASY ADVENTURE EPIC

NEW LINE AND MGM TO CO-PRODUCE AND SHARE WORLDWIDE DISTRIBUTION RIGHTS

PETER JACKSON AND FRAN WALSH TO EXECUTIVE PRODUCE TWO FILMS BASED ON “THE HOBBIT”

Los Angeles, CA (Tuesday, December 18, 2007) Academy Award®-winning filmmaker Peter Jackson; Harry Sloan, Chairman and CEO, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios Inc. (MGM); Bob Shaye and Michael Lynne, Co-Chairmen and Co-CEOs of New Line Cinema have jointly announced today that they have entered into the following series of agreements:

* MGM and New Line will co-finance and co-distribute two films, “The Hobbit” and a sequel to “The Hobbit.” New Line will distribute in North America and MGM will distribute internationally.

* Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh will serve as Executive Producers of two films based on “The Hobbit.” New Line will manage the production of the films, which will be shot simultaneously.

* Peter Jackson and New Line have settled all litigation relating to the “Lord of the Rings” (LOTR) Trilogy.

Said Peter Jackson, “I’m very pleased that we’ve been able to put our differences behind us, so that we may begin a new chapter with our old friends at New Line. ‘The Lord of the Rings’ is a legacy we proudly share with Bob and Michael, and together, we share that legacy with millions of loyal fans all over the world. We are delighted to continue our journey through Middle Earth. I also want to thank Harry Sloan and our new friends at MGM for helping us find the common ground necessary to continue that journey.”

“Peter Jackson has proven himself as the filmmaker who can bring the extraordinary imagination of Tolkien to life and we full heartedly agree with the fans worldwide who know he should be making ‘The Hobbit,’” said Sloan, MGM’s Chairman and CEO. "Now that we are all in agreement on 'The Hobbit,' we can focus on assembling the production team that will capture this phenomenal tale on film."

Bob Shaye, New Line Co-Chairman and Co-CEO comments, “We are very pleased we have been able to resolve our differences, and that Peter and Fran will be actively and creatively involved with ‘The Hobbit’ movies. We know they will bring the same passion, care and talent to these films that they so ably accomplished with ‘The Lord of the Rings’ Trilogy.”

“Peter is a visionary filmmaker, and he broke new ground with ‘The Lord of the Rings,’” notes Michael Lynne, New Line Co-Chairman and Co-CEO. “We’re delighted he’s back for ‘The Hobbit’ films and that the Tolkien saga will continue with his imprint. We greatly appreciate the efforts of Harry Sloan, who has been instrumental in helping us reach our new accord.”

The two “Hobbit” films – “The Hobbit” and its sequel – are scheduled to be shot simultaneously, with pre-production beginning as soon as possible. Principal photography is tentatively set for a 2009 start, with the intention of “The Hobbit” release slated for 2010 and its sequel the following year, in 2011.

The Oscar®-winning, critically-acclaimed LOTR Trilogy grossed nearly $3 billion worldwide at the box-office. In 2003, “Return of the King” swept the Academy Awards®, winning all of the eleven categories in which it was nominated, including Best Picture – the first ever Best Picture win for a fantasy film. The Trilogy’s production was also unprecedented at the time.

For more information about “The Hobbit” films, please visit www.TheHobbitBlog.com.

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How's that for a lovely Christmas present? :yahoo: Paging Orlando for the role of Thranduil!

Jesse - December 18, 2007 11:52 PM (GMT)
:yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:

Thank you so much for this wonderful news OrlandoLad.

I think we all agree about Thranduil. :lol: As the old saying goes 'Like Father, like Son!' :lol:

OrlandoLad - December 19, 2007 07:15 PM (GMT)
You're all very welcome for the news! However, I am but the humble messenger. It's PJ (and the studio's love of money) that we should all truly be thanking! :lol:

And yes, Orlando as Thranduil is a must! I can see the mountains of posters, pillows, pendants and action figures now...


libra - December 19, 2007 11:11 PM (GMT)
It's been awhile since I read the Hobbit, and forgot who Thranduil was, but it makes perfect sense for Orlando to play him.

This is probably far fetched, but when Return of the King ended, I thought how great to do another film of where they left off and what happened to them.

Jesse - December 22, 2007 07:31 PM (GMT)
Some interesting speculation about The Hobbit over at MTV...

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Thranduil

Book Says: King of the Silvans, Thranduil leads the Elves of Mirkwood. He imprisons the dwarves when they trespass through his forest, and then demands a share of Smaug's bounty once the dragon is defeated. He is described as having blond hair ... just like his son Legolas.

We Say: If Orlando Bloom doesn't come back for at least a background cameo, we give up. Naturally distrustful of dwarves, Thranduil can be spiteful and terse — but he still possesses the wisdom of his kin. Ideally, the actor cast would be somewhat regal, someone we believe capable of great power but also great benevolence. Ideally, that actor would be somewhat similar in speech and appearance to Orlando Bloom. Ideally, that actor would be David Bowie.

READ THE FULL ARTICLE HERE


David Bowie???????? :huh:

Wicksey - December 23, 2007 04:46 AM (GMT)
As Legolas' father, I can almost see that.

LondonLioness23 - December 24, 2007 03:33 AM (GMT)
I would love to say that I can see David Bowe in the role but honestly I dont think that I can separate him from the role he played in Labyrinth . Which is funny because he has been in multiple others but I have seen that movie about a million times and well love it! But I can't wait until the Hobbit gets made. Does anyone know why they are going to make it two parts? :legolas:

Jesse - December 24, 2007 09:02 AM (GMT)
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Does anyone know why they are going to make it two parts? :legolas:

I would say it's most probably for the same reason that they split LOTR into three films...to retain as much storyline as possible and give more screen time for attention to detail.

I must get my book out again.

Yoha - December 25, 2007 06:10 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jesse @ Dec 24 2007, 09:02 AM)
QUOTE (LondonLioness23 @ Dec 24 2007, 03:33 AM)
Does anyone know why they are going to make it two parts? :legolas:

I would say it's most probably for the same reason that they split LOTR into three films...to retain as much storyline as possible and give more screen time for attention to detail.

I must get my book out again.


As detailed as these stories are it would be the best way to keep the storyline intact. Plus, 2 more movies...woohoo!!!

LondonLioness23 - December 26, 2007 10:09 AM (GMT)
Oh! Don't get me wrong I want to see and would be more then happy to pay to see two more I was just wondering because with LOTR there were 3 individual books with the Hobbit there is only one. I need to reread that one. :legolas:

Jesse - January 29, 2008 08:59 AM (GMT)
Thanks to OrlandoLad for forwarding this link to me...

Del Toro Doubles Up for Hobbit

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Hollywood Reporter
Guillermo del Toro is in talks to direct back-to-back installments of J.R.R. Tolkien's "The Hobbit," which is being co-financed by New Line and MGM.

Del Toro's name was on a short list of directors who could tackle the project, one of the most anticipated literary adaptations of the past decade. An ill-chosen director for "Hobbit" could put billions of dollars at stake for New Line and MGM and could turn off an audience that encompasses millions of passionate readers, Tolkien fans and obsessive geeks.

Few filmmakers have the cachet that del Toro has, as well as a deep love for the source material, an assured grasp of fantasy filmmaking and an understanding and command of geek culture as well as its respect. Del Toro has built that goodwill through such films as the Oscar-nominated "Pan's Labyrinth," "Hellboy," "Blade 2" (which was made by New Line) and "The Devil's Backbone."

For New Line, making "Hobbit" had become a priority in the wake of its billion-dollar success of the Oscar-winning "The Lord of the Rings" movies, which were co-written and directed by Peter Jackson. Jackson wanted to adapt "Hobbit," but when he got into a dispute with the studio over profit participation, the project went into limbo; neither New Line nor MGM, both rights-holders to the film, wanted to risk alienating fans of the trilogy by making an adaptation that didn't have Jackson's involvement.

The December resolution of the Jackson suit, facilitated by MGM CEO Harry Sloan, paved the way for "Hobbit" to get back on the road to the screen. However, because of other commitments that included "The Lovely Bones" and "Tintin," Jackson could not take on writing and directing roles, opting instead to become an executive producer with approval over creative elements of the pair of films.

Because of the strike, no writer has been hired to adapt Tolkien's children's classic, though that process will be fast-tracked once it's resolved. Del Toro and Jackson will oversee "Hobbit's" writing.

Principal photography for the films, which will be shot simultaneously, is tentatively set for 2009. The production budget is estimated at $150 million per film. The release of the first film is slated for 2010 and the second in 2011.

"Hobbit," which Tolkien initially wrote for his children, was published in the U.K. in 1937 to wide acclaim. It centered on Bilbo Baggins, a hobbit who joins a group of dwarves and the wizard Gandalf on a quest to find the treasure of a dragon named Smaug. Tolkien went on to write "The Lord of the Rings" 17 years later.

Del Toro is putting the finishing touches on Universal's summer release "Hellboy 2: The Golden Army" and recently produced the critically acclaimed ghost story "The Orphanage." He is repped by Endeavor and Exile Entertainment.


As OrlandoLad mentioned to me, shooting is tentatively set for 2009 which gives Orlando a little more time to "age" for the roll of Thranduil. :giggle:

Elf Chick - January 30, 2008 08:39 AM (GMT)
'As OrlandoLad mentioned to me, shooting is tentatively set for 2009 which gives Orlando a little more time to "age" for the roll of Thranduil.'

Does this mean Orlando is actually going to be in "The Hobbit" ? I do hope so. :rolleyes:

Jesse - January 30, 2008 09:25 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Elf Chick @ Jan 30 2008, 08:39 AM)
'As OrlandoLad mentioned to me, shooting is tentatively set for 2009 which gives Orlando a little more time to "age" for the roll of Thranduil.'

Does this mean Orlando is actually going to be in "The Hobbit" ? I do hope so. :rolleyes:

No idea ElfChick.
The comment was just a part of a long standing conversation about the wish for Orlando to play Thranduil...Legolas' father. Orlando needs to age into the role, yet Elves hit a certain physical maturity and then seem to stop aging, so at what level of maturity do you think Orlando should aim for? I would say another 12months and he'd be spot on...but a dark wig this time, deeper voice, add a few little lines and wrinkles with the wonders of make-up and lighting then voila...King Thranduil! Like Father, like son! :lol:

Young Leggy-Loo-Loo...
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And a possible Thranduil...
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Katt - January 31, 2008 03:36 AM (GMT)
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Young Leggy-Loo-Loo...
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And a possible Thranduil...
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Jesse, that is a great example!! I love it. :friends:

Elf Chick - January 31, 2008 08:43 AM (GMT)
I agree with you about another 12 months, Jesse. Deeper voice, don't elves all have that lyrical, gentle voice? Dark hair would be good but I was under the impession that all Mirkwood elves were blonds. However I would be happy just to see Orlando in 'The Hobbit'.

Have a great day. :wave:

OrlandoLad - January 31, 2008 09:06 PM (GMT)
Awesome visual aids, Jesse! From your fevered brow to PJ's call sheet! :lol:

Someone actually suggested David Bowie as Leggy Daddy, which, if it's not our boy, would certainly be interesting casting.

Ooooh! What about Adam Ant? He's got that wafer-thin, other-worldly thing going on as well...

(I know, what heresy!!! :P)

Jesse - January 31, 2008 10:23 PM (GMT)
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Dark hair would be good but I was under the impression that all Mirkwood elves were blonds.


Just dug out my copy of 'The Hobbit'. You are right Elf Chick, Thranduil is blond...

(Page 144 'Flies and Spiders') The feast that they saw now was greater and more magnificent than before; and at the head of a long line of feasters sat a woodland king with a crown of leaves upon his golden hair...

Bother!!! <_<

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Someone actually suggested David Bowie as Leggy Daddy, which, if it's not our boy, would certainly be interesting casting.


I read that somewhere as well...probably here! :lol: Definitely would be interesting casting though.

Katt - February 1, 2008 03:35 AM (GMT)
Orlando was blonde before as Legolas, why not as Thranduil?

Otherwise, that little bit of artistic license(brown vs. blonde) in this case wouldn't hurt, would it? :legolas:

Elf Chick - February 1, 2008 08:17 AM (GMT)
I thought that was the case, Jesse. I thought He looked cute as a blond.It would be great to see Orlando elfed again though.
David Bowie ? Oh please, no!!!!

KarenatJDR - February 2, 2008 05:37 AM (GMT)
I don't know if this is of any interest or not, but I found this online and it's dated Jan 28 of this year so I thought I'd share it here.

Source found here.


Title: The Hobbit
Logline: Centers on Hobbit Bilbo Baggins and the scary adventure he makes with thirteen dwarves.
Writer: J.R.R. Tolkien (author)
Studio: New Line Cinema MGM
Prod. Co: WingNut Films
Genre: Fantasy
Logged: 1/28/2008
More: Novel. Peter Jackson will executive produce. Guillermo del Toro will direct back-to-back installments. Once a writer has been hired, both Jackson and del Toro will oversee the writing process. MGM & New Line agreed to co-finance the films in mid-December 2007.




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